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Apr 16, 2018

Dan Hanson: Good morning and welcome to the Healthcare In Your Hands podcast. It's Dan Hanson and Dr. Lloyd Fielder talking about how key chemistries help patients and practitioners. Really quickly, since it's our first podcast, I wanted to take a moment and talk a little bit about myself and Dr. Fielder and really introduce the topic. DHA Laboratory has been specializing in bringing key chemistries to patients and practitioners, and we felt it was a great opportunity to really bring some healthy content to that topic as we've had so many intrigued customers, so many intrigued practitioners, about the cutting edges of healthcare. The cutting edges of laboratory testing, education, and, really, we're the first ones out here on the market making something like this available on a weekly agenda, hopefully, that we can really bring everything to light here for patients and practitioners in the same place and comprehensively run over topics.

Dan Hanson: I work hands-on in the healthcare field looking specifically at chemistries that are relevant to brain chemistry and chemistries that are relevant across the board in digestive health and immunoglobulin response and all kinds of ... That's allergy testing for everybody out there that's interested in learning more. We also work in prenatal care and other topics as well. Dr. Fielder's been working with myself in terms of considering education for practitioners and patients and consultation services and has a couple healthy practices here in Illinois that allow patients the opportunity to get some face time with Dr. Fielder so we really wanted to pull this together and have a great opportunity to chat with you guys. So good morning Dr. Fielder.

Dr. Fielder: Good morning, Dan.

Dan Hanson: Today, as I kind of mentioned through that introduction, we're going to talk a little bit about advanced laboratory testing. I got involved in developing a wide variety of available laboratory testing for patients and practitioners because we knew there was a huge need out there for people to take health care to the next level. Whether that was practitioners looking at how they can apply functional chemistries to their practice and make a change in their patient's life, or it was patients that were really taking health care in their own hands to discover what they could do to advance a condition and its treatment or what they could do to understand a topic better that might influence their personal health. It was our opportunity to really get together with the experts in our field and provide those laboratory tests.

Dan Hanson: So, what we did was generate a series of laboratory tests that are available to practitioners and the public, that really run through advanced topics like methylation, percentage of free copper, digestive health, allergy response, adrenal stress, various markers. Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. It's our job to take all of the cutting edge topics and make them available. Make those tests available in an easy to order, easy to interpret format for practitioners and for patients so that we can help advance the agenda in the health care field. I got involved in that because we knew there was a huge market out there of people that were really interested in making that available to them.

Dr. Fielder: Yeah, I think that's really awesome information, Dan. From my standpoint as a practitioner, as a chiropractor, when you get out of school you do have way more education in terms of nutrients and nutrition and that aspect, way more than a conventional medical doctor does, but you're still at a loss. What's real popular, and especially chiropractic profession, would be something like applied kinesiology, which for most people know that better as muscle testing. Today, we're not going to get into the pros and cons of muscle testing, but I can speak on behalf of myself that that was just not something that I was ready to use as my sole objective method to tell somebody they need or don't need certain nutrients or something that they might have been eating as part of their lifestyle or like an allergy or something of that nature.

Dr. Fielder: So I had to find laboratory testing on my own, and this is almost 20 years ago. That's how we eventually hooked up. I started using your DHA Laboratory as my laboratory of choice to then do some blood work and some other things. Coming from a background of doing a whole bunch of different testing, but all over the board and not really having one kind of clearinghouse, so to speak. One home base where I can do all of my testing through. It just, for me, the objective data, you don't have to guess. You don't have to infer, and, certainly, you do not have to be wrong about how to go about doing an intervention.

Dr. Fielder: For me that was everything and really transformed the way I really took care of my patients. Not only that I can do it with a much clearer conscience, but the results. They spoke for themselves, and that's what I really enjoy doing and I love doing here. I think what ... You and I have had so many conversations, which was really the reason why we decided that this was absolutely something we have to do, is have this podcast, is that there's a lot of confusion. Both from patient's point of view and practitioner point of view. For patient, they go to their caregiver, their doctor, their physician, their chiropractor, their medical doctor and they're kind of ... It's up to that practitioner to give them the right information.

Dr. Fielder: The most common questions we get is "Are they right? Is this what I need?" So we need to give better education out there for just the regular lay person so that they can better take control of their own health and they can do something. A great example would be Vitamin D testing. We see it yet so much more prevalent in terms of what's out there in the public and people have never been more educated and aware of Vitamin D testing yet a lot of conventional medical doctors still don't regularly test for that. And yet a lot of patients are taking Vitamin D, mostly on their own, and so that's something that when we get the questions "How much should I take every day?" The answer is "I don't know." You need to get tested so that we can see what your level is and then create a plan, an appropriate amount based upon what your number is.

Dr. Fielder: Also, for the average person, they don't necessarily need to run to their practitioner all the time and incur the expense and potentially the misinformation around Vitamin D when they can just get online, order a test through DHA Lab and go find out what their number is, and then have a correct supplement amount so that they do not over or under dose themselves with regards to getting to the number that they need to be as healthy as they can. That's just an example. From the practitioner aspect it is also a lot of practitioners that we talk to, they do not know where to start.

Dr. Fielder: They don't know which test might be most appropriate, and they certainly don't know which company perhaps had the best research and the best science behind their individual testing. So that's what we've gone ahead and done, is done all the hard work. From a practitioner standpoint, understanding which labs would be most congruent and best for that practitioner's type of practice, and also for the patient who doesn't know exactly where they should start as well. That's just a little bit of a background from all different aspects.

Dan Hanson: Sure. That's great.

Dr. Fielder: Yeah. Do you want to talk a little bit about what practitioners can do?

Dan Hanson: Absolutely. Well, I think it really starts out with education. Regardless if it's patients or practitioners, what we want to encourage is that everybody listening to this podcast becomes educated about their health, and that's what we want to help do. When we talk about thing like Vitamin D, it might be more knowledgeable between people like ourselves that ... Hey, you know, in order to move the marker on Vitamin D there are specific amounts. We recently went over a study that showed a patient or somebody, anybody taking Vitamin D would need 400 IUs of Vitamin D in a daily regimen to move their marker in terms of laboratory testing in a meaningful direction if they were low.

Dan Hanson: The majority of supplements ... In this case we were looking at, prenatals really contained almost a tenth of that value. So it's super important, like you said, in terms of vitamins and nutrients and really all elements of laboratory testing, that we become educated on why it's important. Really what that causes for the person. Ultimately, what the right tests are, where you want to see those numbers, and then the effective treatments that are available out there and the practitioners that specialize in them so that they can really make a difference. What practitioners can do is really become educated on the topics that they see are most valuable in their practice.

Dan Hanson: I think that comes from hearing your patients and taking a more patient centric approach. Listening to what people are coming and talking about. What are the common themes that you hear patients and clients speaking about in their day to day health and in their day to day concerns? I think that trends will appear. You'll see that, hey, more and more people have heard about Vitamin D. More and more people have heard about candida. More and more people are considering a gluten free diet and maybe we're on the tail end of that or still the fore end of that trend, but, ultimately, those trends appear in your day to day environment and it's your responsibility to intercept those waves.

Dan Hanson: Hear what the people are saying and bring that to the forefront of your practice so that you're at the cutting edge and work with people like us who are also day to day on the phone with practitioner that are listening and patients that are talking and curating laboratory tests that are at the highest quality and also consultation services that are at the highest quality so that when there's a need for someone's health history and there's a requirement for support that you can use data driven answers and really credible practitioners to work hands on with. I think that's what practitioners can really do.

Dan Hanson: Also, it's about locating the right solutions for their practice to say "Hey, I want to make sure we're advancing our agenda in terms of increasing the availability for high quality labs." Increasing the availability for a wide spread of treatment that we understand thoroughly and increasing the ability to connect with our patients by ultimately accepting those wavelengths, accepting the conversation and being open to how they feel in the moment and, realistically, everything that concerns them. So, practitioner wise, stay on top of the key labs. Stay on top of the key subjects. Stay on top of what people are talking about and stay on top of collaborating with sources like our laboratory that focus specifically on education. I think that that's an over all, a widespread shot approach at understanding what they can do. What do you think?

Dr. Fielder: Yeah. No, I think that's awesome. I think above and beyond for ... If a practitioner's listening currently right now to this, is that not only do you have to actively order things, but you can just go to our website. We have great resources, great articles. We have videos, we have all kinds of information available as well as the podcast itself, which we'll talk a little bit more about at the end, you know, inviting you to send us an email at so that ... Let us know what you would like us to talk about because we're here to ... We're passionate about educating practitioners and patients.

Dr. Fielder: The other thing is that we make available through social media on Twitter and Facebook, primarily. Every day we post the latest cutting edge research that impacts your patient's lives and also tries to create some clarity around laboratory testing. If you're not following us on Twitter or Facebook, get on our website and just click the link and like us or follow us so that you can get great articles every day. That's actually, also, free content for you to put on your own website, which is a great thing to do for your patients as well. The other thing is patients themselves. We really want to educate patients as much as practitioners.

Dr. Fielder: We really feel like that health is something that people need to take control over in themselves and work with their practitioners so that it actually is a synergistic kind of result. Meaning that rather than just having to be a passive person in this process, the better educated a patient is the more easy it is for them to ... They have a better why as to implementing rather than just being at the other end from the practitioner telling them whatever. Any healthy relationship is based on healthy communication. From a practitioner's standpoint, sometimes it feels like a bit of a pain that you have to answer a lot of questions or you just want someone just to follow what you're saying to do.

Dr. Fielder: We find that the best practices are ones where the patients are the best educated. They have a better understanding as to why they're actually doing what the doctor's asking of them so we want the patients to be educated as well. Again, if you're a patient listening, we really want you to send us as many of your questions as possible too at and let us know what you would like us to talk about because this is just the first of many podcasts. Again, we're here for you so let us know what you would like to hear us talk about. Let me just touch on one little example of that for patients is that you're online, as we all are, we're all surfing the net and we're Googling different questions.

Dr. Fielder: We might see things on Facebook or Twitter and you click on it and they're little videos and they're little tutorials and they usually have tag lines that get you hooked into clicking on things. We really want to help you differentiate between a sales pitch and strong internet marketing versus what's actually grounded in correct data and hardcore science. Things that are actually what they are meant to be and not what somebody's selling you on. We're very, very protective of our clientele, of doctors and caregivers and patients out there. We don't want to see what we, unfortunately, are seeing more and more of, which is a really great sales copy or a really great video or a great webinar and people spending, literally, thousands of dollars on crap.

Dr. Fielder: On stuff that just is not based on science and is not really meant to help. It's meant to put more money in someone else's pocket and less in yours. That's another thing that we want to address as well going down the road. It's really important how to identify a high quality lab, and that's really what we take pride in here.

Dan Hanson: Absolutely. It comes down to that really the information is getting diluted. We see a great opportunity, and when you look at to from a business aspect, people that are in the industry see a great opportunity to promote products in ways that are just unprecedented up until this time. The programs that are being developed to help people and help practitioners are growing. The conferences are growing and being launched at all times. While that's going on, you're seeing more stringent regulation on continuing medical education because of the influx of material that just generally doesn't hold weight. You're seeing a lot of different discussions going on online where people are supporting one particular treatment model and maybe necessarily not supporting more of an individualized approach based on that person.

Dan Hanson: That's really one of the strong points is that being passionate about integrative health care. Being directly involved in speaking with practitioners, speaking with patients, working with up and coming companies, being at all the top integrative health care conferences and having a strong intuition for business and really what makes people tick, we have a really unique perspective on what people are learning and what's coming out. You'll notice that our daily health care topics that we share are from top researchers, and they are very science based.

Dan Hanson: That's really how DHA got started. It got started, and looking at the top science and integrative and functional approaches to treating patients who suffer from mental and emotional conditions and supporting that with the leading physicians, the top labs, and making that available to everybody. That's only led to us being more passionate in a wider scope of areas and being more intrigued to gain education and really starting things like this where we can help spread that education and keep the conversation open. I certainly encourage everybody to write in about any questions that they have, whether it's regarding a program, their health, a topic that's coming up in the media. Something at all about what we said.

Dan Hanson: It's all appropriate for discussion here. We want it to be like your living room where you can just speak up because, realistically, this is what we were doing before we put the microphone in front of us. We were talking about the top issues, the top topics. We're looking at the best podcasts, we're looking at all the top researchers and we're speaking with them live at the leading conferences or at the leading events in our industry. With that type of access and our knowledge and our ability to just stay really on the top of the questions and what we think is important is something that we really want to share with everybody. I think that both of us are really passionate about that and have a lot to share today.

Dr. Fielder: Absolutely.

Dan Hanson: Or even in general.

Dr. Fielder: Yeah, I think this is exciting. I'm looking forward to everything that you just said, especially answering questions for patients and practitioners. It's really one of, I think, our strongest points. As far as any kind of closing thought, the first order of business that, again, I just want to make sure ... When we talked about a number earlier, we said 400 IUs of Vitamin D. I think the actual number is 4,000 IUs of Vitamin D, so don't want to talk about how much we know, and then give you some incorrect information. That's just ... we're already ... We're on top of that stuff. We're not only talking, but we also listen. Again, that email is info I-N-F-O @dhalab, so it's Send us your questions about testing, even about conditions. We're here to help and it's really, again, our pleasure to help you sort out the myriad of information that's out there and create as much of a clear path for you as a practitioner to help patients get well and you as a patient, help yourself get well.

Dan Hanson: Absolutely.

Dr. Fielder: I think that sounds about it for this first one. What do you think, Dan?

Dan Hanson: Absolutely. Yeah, thanks for tuning in. We look forward to receiving some questions and we'll catch up with you guys soon.

Dr. Fielder: All right. Take it easy guys.

Dan Hanson: Have an awesome day.

Dr. Fielder: That wasn't too ...